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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 23, 2009 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HOW DARE YOU !

I think the voice evolved.

I feel that Jerry's voice was perfect for the material he and Grisman were producing toward the end of Jerry's life.

Perhaps the voice was a bit over the hill(and froggy) to belt out Gimme Some Lovin', but for a classic like The Fields Have Turned Brown, his voice was well.......ideal.

In the end, the voice conveyed wisdom and grit from the years of travel and performance. What more could anybody ask for?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 23, 2009 11:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HOW DARE YOU !

His voice was not the same, but I think it worked really well on a number of tunes in the later years. Once again, I'll let the guy currently working with Hunter say it best:

"There's no way to measure his greatness or magnitude as a person or as a player. I don't think eulogizing will do him justice. He was that great - much more than a superb musician with an uncanny ear and dexterity. He is the very spirit personified of whatever is muddy river country at its core and screams up into the spheres. He really had no equal. To me he wasn't only a musician and friend, he was more like a big brother who taught and showed me more than he'll ever know. There are a lot of spaces and advances between the Carter Family, Buddy Holly and, say, Ornette Coleman, a lot of universes, but he filled them all without being a member of any school. His playing was moody, awesome, sophisticated, hypnotic and subtle. There's no way to convey the loss. It just digs down really deep." - Bob Dylan

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Apr 23, 2009 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HOW DARE YOU !

so perfectly stated that eulogy; and i have to chime in here and agree and disagree with WT; yes, his vocals did decline over the years, BUT, i never felt it hampered my enjoyment even one iota when i listened to the JGB or any of the various Garcia projects, in fact, if one can listen to a show as late as 2/26/93 and not be moved, then perhaps that person needs to re-examine their appreciation of Jerry; as for how he sounded with the GD after '72, it doesn't really matter to me since the bulk of my listening is only up to that point; all that follows is more or less dross

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Apr 23, 2009 1:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HOW DARE YOU !

I do love that Dylan quote.

I agree too that certain songs of his just FIt w/that croaky voice, even in the 80's...it's just so hard to defend him as a singer to "outsiders" who can't see/hear what we all loved about him.

sure do miss him, that's fer sure.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 23, 2009 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: BD & HF score! Wait...Coach K benches em anyway!

Yep, certainly you and BD make a good point. Hmmm, since it took two of you, one gets an assist, and the other the deuce. No, foot was on the line, no three...sorry.

Seriously, though, I see just what you're getting at. And when my little sister says I have to listen to an 80s Althea, I can see that.

I am just making crass generalizations, based entirely on my very biased focus on the early era, and esp the early are acoustic stuff that harkens back to his roots.

I do think that whatever it was he had, he was almost singular in that (I know lots of folks say this kind of thing about their singer songwriters, etc.), though that is not necessarily some amazing accomplishment.

I just don't agree with folks that I discuss the SF scene with (nonDEADers) that state categorically "nobody but Balin could sing" and "no one in the DEAD could" as I think he was way above an idiosyncratic singer like Kottke or Dylan, whom you love while knowing they don't measure up, even if we can't say he had classical chops whatever that means...

And I have no idea where this basketball metaphor is leading...